So I went in and pre-ordered BP2 earlier this fall. My copy arrived in the post on Tuesday Oct 9th having been shipped on Sept 24th, not bad turnaround for shipping from the UK to the Canadian backwoods. Curt got his copy on Friday the 5th, but we had the Thanksgiving Weekend in between so that's only one business day between. Judging by forum and FB chatter, I'm actually ahead of the curve on this one - that's ominous IMHO!
First off, BP and it's stable mates are a bit like Marmite - either loved, hated or just put with since we don't want to make it ourselves - in the war-game community. I find that they give a good game and allow a fun game to be played out in an evening. They are easy to pick up and that works well with new players those unfamiliar with the period in play. Furthermore they give a good framework and allow the players to tailor them as desired. Basically you can follow BP like my wife follows a cookbook recipe - keep to the way it's written the first time mostly and then mess around with it once you know how things work out.
I won't go through an in-depth review of changes, because I don't have time to do a side by side comparison, I play HC, P&S and BP and can't keep the subtle changes straight anyway and since we tend to work from the rulebook as we play anyway rather than rely on aging and fading memories.
Briefly here's the good points on the new edition.
- Visually it's what you expect - high quality printing with lots of eye candy - too bad the proof reading wasn't up to the same production standard (see below).
- It's well organized. Hallelujah there's an index!! I found it very easy to navigate and had no trouble finding the rules I wanted - often there's cross referencing. Well done lads.
- I like the selection of scenarios - a wide range covering mainstream and no so mainstream periods. There's also some valuable design notes on fitting historical battles into war-games scenarios. Well done again.
- They've expanded the rules on Generals, adding personality traits and other features. Most of us could do the same but it's useful to have the rulebook examples as a template to follow along or ignore as we wish.
- Having pre-ordered my copy came with a lovely figure of Russell Crowe from Master and Commander. He won't fit into my current projects, but he might appear if I get back into War of 1812.
- Artillery can now ignore skirmishers and fire on supports.
- Enfilade fire now retools misses instead of rolling twice the dice.
- Evade rules are more variable- you might get away or you might get caught. Also I believe March columns can also evade.
- I think there are subtle changes within the command rolls and unit characteristics but have better things to do that work them all out!
- There are subtle changes to Irregular units, mostly who gets considered irregular. In the Napoleonic age Riflemen and Voltigeurs count as irregular skirmishers which seems appropriate. Furthermore in the 1815 rearguard scenario, both British and French Light Cavalry units are Irregular. This is no hard and fast rule, but there's interesting scope for the scenario designer or tailor.
Ok now the not so good - the typos. Here are the one's that jump out at me so far.
- This one is just annoying and has no effect of play but on p19 a picture of two lovely Napoleonic Chasseurs a
CoevalCheval Elite Company is labeled as French Cuirassiers. Seriously? You couldn't find a proof reader with even a rudimentary knowledge of the most well studied army in your period? Not one of you read a Blandford or Osprey or bought a box of Airfix Waterloo French Cavalry? Reminds me of the first club armour game I played as a 13 year old and I confused T34s with Stalins. - This one is far more serious. On p49 the Morale Dice (Saving Throw) modifiers in the table are completely wrong - they cut and paste the mods from the command roll table. After 5 minutes of WTFing about why distance from the General affected casualties I worked it out. Luckily the table on the QRS got it right, and it hasn't changed from what we're familiar with.
- The enfilade fire rule mentioned above is correct in the rulebook p53, but wrong on the QRS p96. So now we're left with the conundrum of is the rule book right (as with enfilade) or the QRS (like Saving Throws)?
However, once the typos are worked out I'm sure that BP2 will generate lots of fun games and get a lot of usage. Hopefully it will generate interest in the Horse and Musket period in the hobby.
A good analysis Peter. While the layout changes are for the good, I was staggered at the errors. have played one game with them and apart from cannon ignoring skirmishers it felt just the same. I will continue to use them as and when as they are certainly better suited to the big games I put on to an other set.
ReplyDeleteI ordered mine with the expedited postage on 28 September and it arrived on 9 October! Not good.
Wow Colin, you got ripped off on postage! My got here on the 9th for 5 quid. We use them for large games and quick games. I will likely use Honours of War for SYW, but will try BP2 too.
DeleteAs my Dad would say the changes are evolutionary rather than revolutionary, which is a good thing.
Thanks for the run down, Peter. Mine just arrived (US WA State) yesterday. Only took about 2 weeks and got the figure too. Haven't gone through it yet, but will note the errors you found.
ReplyDeleteThere must have been a fast pigeon to the prairies. My big worry is the typos I haven't found yet.
DeleteThere's a lot of good in the book too.
Cheers
Peter
Shocking proof reading I would say . I can take or leave the rules, but I think at least the basics provide something to customise .
ReplyDeleteExactly Dave. I buy rules for research as well as to play, and there's good ideas in with the typos.
Delete"I don't have time "
ReplyDeleteWhy review then ?
A proper review would tell us the changes and how it plays differently.
Personally I'm happy with Peter's executive summary. I found it very helpful. Isn't there something on TMP you can scribble on?
DeleteThanks Jason.
DeleteWell done Peter, I too was annoyed at the typos. That said, I am happy with the look of the book and the way they have streamlined the game.
ReplyDeleteCheers Sander. There's a lot to like in the book.
DeleteThanks for your early views on the rules. I have BP1 and feel less inclined to rush out and get BP2, but no doubt I will get them sooner or later. I can imagine that Warlord themselves are annoyed by this, but an early move to acknowledge the errata on their website would have been a good response.
ReplyDeleteCheers Norm!
DeleteNice first look at BP2 I've got BP1 ,I guess I'll eventually get BP2 but I think I need to be playing it a bit more to justify that,pity about all the typos!
ReplyDeleteBest Iain
I'd get a copy Iain. The typos are annoying for now but hopefully thee will be errata soon.
DeleteCheers, Peter
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